Separation of Church and State
U.S.S.R. vs. U.S.A.
|1936 & 1964Constitution of the U.S.S.R.
Article 124. In order to ensure to citizens freedom of
conscience, the church in the U.S.S.R.
is separated from the state, and the school from the church.
Freedom of religious worship and freedom of antireligious propaganda is
recognized for all citizens.
1977 Constitution of the U.S.S.R.
ARTICLE 52. Citizens of the USSR are
guaranteed freedom of conscience, that is the right to profess or not to
profess any religion, and to conduct religious worship or atheistic
propaganda. Incitement of hostility or hatred on religious grounds is
USSR, the church is separated from the state, and the school from the
As adopted by the Congress of Soviets on the 24th
Article 12. In order to ensure genuine freedom of conscience
for the working people, the
church is separated from the State, and the school from the church:
and freedom of religious and anti-religious propaganda is
recognized for all citizens.
United States Constitution
Amendment 1. Congress shall make no law respecting an
establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or
abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the
people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a
redress of grievances.
Notice above that "separation of church and
state is NOT in the United States Constitution.
Very few Christians know that several State Constitutions specifically
mention religion, Christianity and the Bible, for example;
Section 7 of the OHIO - Bill of Rights: “Religion, morality, and
knowledge, however, being essential to good government, it shall be the
duty of the general assembly to pass suitable laws to protect every
religious denomination in the peaceful enjoyment of its own mode of
public worship, and to encourage schools and the means of instruction.”
The Ohio Constitution was adopted in 1802. Twenty-three years later, in
1825, a tax levy was passed to support and set up a public school
system. Therefore, the schools mentioned in the Ohio Constitution are
private and church schools. Christian Churches founded 106 of the first
108 schools. As written, the Ohio Constitution required the State to
protect and encourage private church schools.
Massachusetts - Declaration of Rights,
Article 2: “And every denomination of Christians.. . shall be
equally under the protection of the law.” (The law is to protect
Vermont - Declaration of Rights, Article 3: “(our) opinion shall
be regulated by the word of God.” (The Bible) . . . ‘Nevertheless, every
sect or denomination of Christians ought to observe the Sabbath or
Lord’s day, and keep up some sort of religious worship, which to them
shall seem most agreeable to the revealed word of God.” (The Bible)
Virginia - Article 1, Section 16: ‘and it is the mutual duty of
all to practice Christian forbearance, love and charity towards each
Mississippi - Section 18: ‘the rights hereby secured shall not be
construed to . . . exclude or remove the Holy Bible from use in any
public school of this state.”
The following is copied from the book,
The Myth of Separation by David Barton
pages 26,27 and 28.
George Washington, in his inaugural address, urged Congress to move
quickly to form some type of declaration of the rights of states and
individuals to be added to the Constitution. James Madison, at that
time a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, submitted nine
articles to the Congress that expressed protection for fundamental
rights. Madison's articles were passed on to the Committee of Eleven,
a select committee in the House that included one member from each of
the eleven states. The committee reviewed his nine articles and
referred them to the House for full consideration. In the House,
additions were made that resulted in seventeen total articles. Those
seventeen were passed to the Senate which, after consideration,
reduced the number to twelve.
A conference committee of
the two houses convened to work out the differences in the two lists.
James Madison led the House delegation and Oliver Ellsworth the Senate
delegation. This committee agreed on final wording for twelve
amendments and returned them to the full Congress for final approval.
These twelve were first accepted by the House on September 24, 1789,
and then by the Senate on September 25, 1789. They were then submitted
to the states for ratification.
Of the twelve proposed amendments, the states approved only ten. On
December 15, 1791, Virginia became the last state to ratify them.
These ten articles were added as Amendments to the Constitution and
are now known as the Bill of Rights--a declaration of what the
federal government could not do! Thus, Congress had provided for the
states the promise of state sovereignty and individual protection in
at least ten specific Amendments.
The states had already stipulated that Christians were
the ones who would serve in public office, and the federal
Constitution had made no change in that. Had it attempted to violate
or reverse the provisions of the states' constitutions, it would have
been defeated by the delegates or rejected by the states.
The historical records of the drafting of the First Amendment show
a strong reliance by the delegates on provisions from their own state
constitutions. Notice the various proposals that led to the final
House version of the First Amendment:
JUNE 7 . Initial proposals of James Madison. "The Civil Rights
of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship,
nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full
and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, nor on any pretext
JULY 28. House Select Committee. "No religion shall be established
by law, nor shall the equal rights of conscience be infringed."
AUGUST 15. Full day of debate with many alterations and additions,
with some question, still, whether any such amendment was necessary.
Following the suggestion of his own state's ratifying convention,
Samuel Livermore of New Hampshire proposed: "Congress shall make no
laws touching religion, or infringing the rights of conscience."
AUGUST 20. Fisher Ames (Massachusetts) moved that the following
language be adopted by the House, and it was agreed: "Congress shall
make no law establishing religion, or to prevent the free exercise
thereof, or to infringe the rights of conscience."
This last version was sent to the Senate, which began its own work on
SEPTEMBER 3. Several versions proposed in quick succession.
"Congress shall not make any law infringing the rights
of conscience, or establishing any religious sect or society."
"Congress shall make no law establishing any particular denomination
of religion in preference to another, or prohibiting the free exercise
thereof, nor shall the rights of conscience be infringed."
"Congress shall make no law establishing one religious
society in preference to others, or to infringe on the rights of
Passed at the end of the day: "Congress shall make no
law establishing religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
SEPTEMBER 9. "Congress shall make no law establishing articles of
faith or a mode of worship, or prohibiting the free exercise of
This version was sent back to the House where a Conference
Committee convened to eliminate the differences in wording. This
committee agreed that the final wording should be:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
It was then retuned to the full House and Senate, where it was
approved as recommended by the Conference Committee.
As evident from these records, the word "religion" was
used interchangeably with "religious sect," "religious society," and
"particular denomination." Today we would best understand the actual
context of the First Amendment by saying,
"Congress shall make no law establishing one Christian
denomination as the national denomination."
Separation of church and state is a
non-Constitutional battle-cry in the war against Christianity. It is used to
frighten godly Americans out of the polls, out of government, and back to the
Separation of church and state is
a blatant distortion of the intent of the framers of the First Amendment. Are
the wicked afraid that Christianity and government are somehow going to unite in
the future? No, they are fearful because they know that Christianity and
government were already united here in America. It is the connection between
Christianity and government that they have to destroy if they ever hope to take
complete control over America.
To sever the connection between
Christianity and government, they have to separate us from the knowledge of our
Christian history. They must keep us ignorant of the truth that government in
America was Christian from its very beginning.
Most patriots realize the left-wing and
the anti-Christ want to destroy Christianity. Marx, Lenin, Stalin, all communist
leaders have made that plain in a thousand different ways. Well, if it is
Christianity that they are against, why don't they just try to change our
religion? The answer is obvious. They do, but they also realize that they cannot
destroy the Christian religion until after they have prevented the government
from upholding and protecting the Christian religion.
How do they stop the American
government from being a protector of Christianity? Well, they cause Americans to
forget their Christian history. They re-write history, put it on television and
call it a Docudrama.
'Program' us with hidden agenda's
embedded in television programming. (see Yada, yada, yada below.) They remove
information from our history books, change the meaning of words, or distort the writings of our colonial founders. They
keep us from reading the Maryland Charter that ended with a proviso that no
interpretation of the charter should be allowed whereby God's holy and true
Christian religion might in any wise suffer. They deny us the knowledge that our
forefathers wrote into the Rhode Island Charter that the very reason for the
Rhode Island government was that the people might be in a better capacity to
defend themselves in their rights and liberties against all the enemies of the
When we Christians want to have a say
in the selection of public school text books, cries of outrage come forth;
"book burners," "separation of church and state" and
"who are you to impose your morals on us?" In short, they want to deny
us and our children the truth that government was established in America for the
protection of general Christianity in to protect their practice of their
particular choice Christian faith or denomination. That was the
main purpose of colonial government. Through control of the TV., movies,
schools and even some pulpits they have denied to us and our children the
knowledge of the origin of our government and the origin of its laws in the
Christian Bible. Through television 'programming' they promote a moral
standard contrary to traditional moral standards.
Consider how helpless this situation
has made those of you who oppose the wicked. Think of the various corruptions
that are destroying your children; drugs, alcohol, abortion, pornographic
material in magazines, movies, television and the porn plagued internet. Free love rather
than marriage, and if married, easy divorce. When Christians oppose these things
they call you bigots, right-wingers, extremists, kooks and fascist. Tell you to
stay out of government.
you cannot insist on the enforcement of laws against these things because, after
all, we are a pluralistic society, or we are not a Christian nation. You even
hear well known television evangelists using those same phrases. (Whose side are
on anyway?) You can't answer them if you don't know that we are a Christian
nation. If men in government don't know America is a Christian nation, then they
cannot use Moses instruction as a guide when writing law. The Speaker of The
House of Representatives can figuratively look Moses in the eye because Moses sculpture
is right in front of him on the opposite wall. If he goes beyond asking the
House Chaplain to open each session with a prayer he will pay for it on the
evening news, the late night comedy programs and on the editorial page.. They often say, you
can't enforce morality, but that is exactly what early America did. America enforced
God's Laws. We enforced morality!
You may not have thought of it that
way. Perhaps your minister had joined the chorus saying we can't enforce Bible
Laws or use them as guided for modern legislation. Any way but God's way! But the writers of the New Testament knew that it was the job of
government to enforce morality. In Romans 13 civil rulers are called
ministers of God to punish evildoers. Paul said , 'government' beareth not the
sword in vain. In other words, it is the job of government to maintain order and
is authorized to use force if necessary. To punish those who
violate laws. and, the New Testament says that government is to punish
those who break God's Laws. Our Christian forefathers knew that. Our founding
fathers believed that was the essence of good government.
And here is more from the New Testament
for those who have been persuaded that God's Laws have been put away or cannot
be used by government to punish evildoers, 1 Timothy 1:8-10; We know the law is
good, if a man use it lawfully. Knowing this, the law is not made for a
righteous man, (We don't need speeding laws for people who drive safely.)
but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy
and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers,
for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is
contrary to sound doctrine;
Do Romans 13 or 1 Timothy 1:8-10 sound
like government should not enforce morality? Nonsense! Romans 13 makes it plain that is
exactly the duty of government. To punish the evildoer, to enforce morality! And
God determines what is evil and God determines what is moral. And your
denomination determines whether baptism is by sprinkling or immersion. whether
communion is to be with wine or grape juice, and whether the Sabbath is Saturday
or Sunday. That is true 'separation of church and state'.
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|But what about the Treaty of Tripoly?
||What about all this other evidence?
| Those who object to the
United States being a Christian Nation have searched the history books
and said, "Ah-ha!"
They found The Treaty of Tripoli (1796) and
they use it as a proof text that The United States is not a Christian
nation. One document says "No." and thousands others say "Yes".
In religion it has always amazed me how people can
know all about an obscure Bible verse and use it to disprove a point
supported by many plain verses. Plain verses that they seem to have
never heard before.
When someone says, "There is no evidence to prove ...". I
know they are lying. Why? Because there is always some evidence to
prove the other side is right.
It's A Mystery!
While everyone knows that today's
Supreme Court has forbidden prayer and Bible reading in the public schools, very
few know the state constitution of Mississippi, in Section 18, says that the Bible is
not to be removed from use in any public school in this state. We can have
Moses holding The Ten Commandments on the Supreme Court building but not on the
Why is it that Congress can have a
Chaplain and open every session with prayer and public schools can not
open anything with prayer?
How can President Ronald Reagan declare 1983, "The Year of the Bible.
And then President George Bush declare 1990 The International Year of
Bible Reading while the very same Bible is forbidden in public schools?
How can the same government both
promote and forbid Bible reading?
Mississippi State Constitution
Section 18 -
The answer is in the little known fact that,
while we have one nation we have two governments! These two governments even
have two different flags. The flags are similar but different. The difference is
so slight that most people never notice.
You know the familiar words,
allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for
which it stands. One nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all."
that this is a pledge to a republic, not to a democracy! The flag of the
republic (under God) is the traditional red, white and blue star spangled
However there is a second
flag. This second flag is very similar except that it has a yellow fringe. Have
you ever wondered why some flags have a yellow fringe? The yellow fringed U.S.
flag is found in many places especially court rooms. This second flag, the
yellow fringed flag, it is the
flag of the Legislative Democracy.
Christian Republic v. Pluralistic Legislative Democracy
What is the difference between a
republic and a democracy? Is the United States a republic or a democracy? The
answer, it is both. President Bush was the president of both nations. The
Christian republic under God proclaimed 1983 The Year of The Bible and proclaimed
International Year of Bible Reading.
But it was the humanist, pluralistic
legislative democracy's government that forbid prayer and Bible reading in
public schools. Have you ever wondered why groups calling themselves 'patriots'
always seem to be always at odds with the government? The dual nature of our
government is part of the answer. This dual nature of our government is a
mystery, when the mystery is understood, it answers many questions about, what
in the world is happening here in America?
This course is about
WE and this America is represented by a red - white and blue flag. This is the
United States, a Republic, mentioned favorably in the Bible.
The other United
States is the District of Columbia, a Democracy. Presently the District of
Columbia lords it over the several States.
Some churches claim
the The United States is mentioned favorably in the Bible. Other churches claim
that The United States is mentioned unfavorably in the Bible. Both points of view are
right. How can this be?
Both are right since
there are two United States, but the world sees these two as one. Some even claim
the Unites States one of the end-time beasts mentioned in the Books of Daniel
Which is the U.S. Capitol and which is the Vatican?
Is one 'The Beast' and the other an 'Image of the Beast'?
Check it out for yourself.
To return to the course, click on the flag of the republic
events as of May 2013
Edward Snowden, Patriot or Traitor?
On June 14, 2013, United States federal prosecutors charged
Edward Snowden with
espionage and theft of government property.
Snowden was accused of revealing that the NSA and CIA were
spying on the American People. Everyone knows the NSA and CIA
spy on foreign countries. That is their job. The NSA and CIA are
not suppose to spy on U.S. Citizens residing in the Fifty
Espionage is the giving of information to support U.S.
enemies during wartime. Thinking cap time: Who was
the enemy that Snowden supported? He supported the American
People of the Fifty States.
Does that charge of
espionage mean that the District of Columbia is at war
with the States?
Is "Gun Control"
the disarming of a
Some charge Snowden with being a
whistleblower. But being a whistleblower is not a crime, it
is a patriotic activity.
Rome not Italy
In the past, it was the city of Rome, not Italy, that ruled the world.
is the District of Columbia, not the Fifty States, that is trying
to rule the world.
Within a Nation
A 33 minute MP3 explanation.
To return to the course, click on the flag of the Republic
Red, White and Blue
"We pledge of allegiance to the Republic for which it stands"
Red, White and Blue
with a Gold Fringe.
A legislative Democracy.